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and the economy. if you can't get it right it is time to get out. >> the league is being put to the test of whether the nfl shield is truly bullet proof or will the $10 billion brand take a big hit and whether the ref's union to blame. fran tarkenton joins me to tell me what is going on. police clash with protesters and fire rubber bullets into the crowd. the protests seem to worry investors here as stocks slid late in the day the dow well 101 points. media jumped all over romney's remark. you hear very little when his opponent makes the gaff. is obama giving him a free ride? ann coulter is going to weigh in. the candidates are laying out their vision of the economy and the world. >> good evening. >> good evening, larry, foreign policy took front stage in the national campaign today as both candidates were in new york today making their arguments around the world starting with president obama addressing the general assembly today. >> there are no words that excuse the killing of innocence. there is no video that justifies an attack on an embassy. there is no slander that provides an excu
this was not political, it was not for this, this, and this reason, it was in fact trying to make sure the mesh economy was on solid base and that we could get some jobs back. >> we're about four minutes from the beginning of that q&a session. we are monitoring mr. bernanke's address, art. we'll bring you the session when it does begin. >>> bond traders also keeping a very close eye on mr. bernanke and his remarks and the upcoming q&a that we'll bring you. rick santelli tracking the action at the cme. reactions? >> i've been phoning around. there is a very common thread especially among a lot of the futures traders. they keyed if on one sentence of ben bernanke. we'll show it on the screen. we expect that a highly accommodative stance of monetary policy remain appropriate for a considerable time after the economy strengthens. and this is what traders were not happy about. i talked to two or three traders that said they're going to be moving now almost exclusively in trading non-financials, commodities, precious metals, and his opinion -- things that the fed can't print. they also think that ultimately
's a point you made earlier in an earlier segment that the bottom line is the economy is still very, very weak. i'll tell you, we've been on overweight equities for the last six or nine months. we're now starting to pull back some of the risk. yes, the market could rally higher. i don't see the stimulus up as much as i did when everybody didn't believe qe-3 was coming. i think there's more negative potential headlines. we're taking risk off the table right now and hopefully we'll re-enter at a lower position. >> it's interesting. rickntelli, the fiscal cliff keeps coming up. that's one of the biggest issues in terms of keeping businesses from making any real decisions here, putting money to work, and it's also the highlight going into the election. >> it is. i guess the real irony is even if the fiscal cliff didn't exist, the outlook economically, both domestically and globally, is deteriorating. really, it's a bit of a double whammy. i'll go back to what i said the last time we discussed this an hour ago. if you look at the 21 weeks from mid-october to march of 2000 when the nasdaq crash
realize when we watch madrid is what's going on there is about the economy. a lot of the good things that have happened in europe are just about the funding. not even addressing the economy. i think, yes, that's bubbling to the surface. i think there's one other issue. as good as the housing data was today, and it was good, we're still in a 20-foot pool. we're not 18 feet under water, we're two feet under water. if you go back to 2002 or 2003, as i did today, the improvement looks minuscule by a wide comparison. >> good analysis there, rick. liz, when you're talking to clients are they risk verse? what are you hearing from them? what kinds of signs are you getting from some of the corporates out there in terms of the uncertainty? >> you guys talk about it all the time. it's often referred to as the most hated rally. it's not just a rally. it's the most hated bull market. we're almost four years into this. there's still so many nonbelievers. we don't find things much different. in terms of corporations, and i'm in major travel season right now so i've spoken the last couple weeks with
on wall street. disappointing news on the broadest measure of the size and strength of the economy in america. the financial reading of the gross domestic product shows that the economy grew at an annualized rate of 1 1/3 percent for the first quarter, down from 1.7%. much of the change due from poor farm production in the midwest because of a severe drought. dow industrials broke a four day losing streak on thursday meanwhile with the best day in two weeks. after fresh concerns about europe eased. the markets, however, were down on friday. consumer confidence jumped to the highest level in seven months in september. the conference board says its index rose more than 10% from august. indicator was closely watched because consumer spending makes up nearly 70% of the u.s. economy. >>> two important pieces of date to for the housing market for out. sales of new homes in august for down slightly from july. the median price of a home rose by a record amount p 11%. pending home sales slightly down in month of august, at least in part due to an inventory mortgage. not enough homes availab
and the sovereign bond market and watch the politicians fail to do what's necessary to get these economies to grow. you have to stabilize the patient before you try and fission their long-term problems. the politicians don't do this. that means europe stays in a recession. for u.s. investors, i think it is still something of a side show. >> something of a side show. until they either come up with the austerity or -- something's got to give, right? >> because it doesn't disrupt the u.s. economy. the u.s. economy is still growing. our exports to europe are only a very small part of our gdp. the housing market recovery is much more important to the improvement of wealth. we're seeing some improvement of confidence. we're seeing rising home prices. all these are more important to the united states than what's going on in europe. >> mark, how do you see it? you invested in europe these days or no? >> a little bit, maria. you know, i guess the thing i would say about europe and soon to watch on our shores is you're going to pay more and get less. i look forward to the dislocation between price and value
's not forget we also had a dismal report on durable goods orders, once again showing weakness in this economy. investors not worried about these numbers today. >> we got decent news out of europe and china this morning. either way, we're asking if investors should think twice before buying into this kind of a rally based on what the u.s. economy is telling us right now. let's talk about it in today's "closing bell" exchange. we have larry blazer from mayflower advisers and our own rick santelli and mandy drury. larry glazer, you happen to believe that economically there's an iceberg dead ahead. this market doesn't act like it today. >> no, it doesn't. you can see today investors are so focused on the global stimlouse story that they're missing the big picture. the big picture is the fact that the economic data, particularly global manufacturing data, is absolutely rolling over. look at chinese manufacturing, down 11 months in a row. you hit the nail on the head. gdp, durable goods, all a sign of weakness. the problem is the catalysts are behind us and the icebergs are ahead. you've got the fi
geo politics has upped the price, but now the slowing economy is questioning how long traders can hold on to those premiums. you can't outrun economic fundamentals no matter how much you print. >> what do you think about that, bill? even though corporate america looks strong, looks like the earnings estimates need to come down. >> i think the summer of dal droms are about over. going forward, the thing that might be the big spark that changes the psychology and the ball game is the election. i don't believe all the polls. we'll see what happens. if we're right that there's a seat change and some fellas join the unemployment line deservedly, then you might see money be put to work. this fiscal cliff and all the other nasties we hear about are not going to be permanent dampeners on the economy. i think you have to look forward and anticipate what's next. >> is it the same scenario -- >> that one i disagree on. >> okay. bill, are you looking at different scenarios if the president wins re-election versus a romney win? how are you playing that? >> well, number one, i don't think anybody's
with obama saying he is better off on the economy for the next four years. let's take a look at the shape of the economy and the one bright spot, which simon mentioned, which is house. first of all you can the majority say the economy is poor. we are back up to 53%. in fact, it deteriorated from our last survey, only 36% of the public says the economy is fair and take a look at the low percentage, 10%, who say it's excellent. we started this survey back in '07, just before the recession started. it was around 25 or 30% saying the economy was good or excellent. this may be the new normal, just one out of ten saying the economy is good or excellent. now, let's take a look at what they say, in the next chart here about economic optimism. you can see here that it's 35/25 it beats optimism -- it does beat pessimism for the outlook for the future, 35% of the public saying it's going to get better. and we do have a change that we've tracked here. let's get rid of these other items here, take a look at the good -- better versus worse. you can see here back in 2011, it was about even. and now, it
output at a plant as the economy slows and demand weakens. meantime 40% of china's iron ore mines are standing idle as steel prices have crumbled. and loans to firms and households fell more than expected. ecb staying loans to the private sector fell 0.6% from the same month a year ago. italy's borrowing costs falling at a bond auction today. analysts say the auction shows nand for italian government paper remains healthy. and eu regulators are prepare to go charge microsoft for failing to comply with a 2009 ruling. that ruling had on ordered the company to offer user as choice of web browsers. apparently they may not have done that. if guilty, microsoft could face fines of up to 10% of its global revenues. and that would be a lot of money. >> iran still, we're this close to nuclear -- think our unfunded labels are like 60 trillion or something. europe back in the crapper, but the refs. huh? >> i told you, i don't always like unions. i'm actually happy that the refs union won. >> it does provide a release from some of the travails and the worries of every day life. spoorts is spor
of the economy, and if that stops jobs are going to stop, too and so is everything else. >> larry, i think those are very good points. i would argue most of the weakness we are seeing in the manufacturing side is a function of much weaker export s because of weakness in europe and asia. i think what we are seeing in the latest chicago data is a catchup with all the other weakness we had seen in earlier surveys. i think the economy is weak. it's not strong by any means but the labor market looks like it is growing. i don't think it will rollover from modest job growth. claims are ploe low and tax receipts are improving. >> 1 30i7b 3% depend we got earlier this weak. a lot of people would call ate growth recession. i want to ask is this stall-speed or an actual recession? >> i think we have slowed since the 1.3% second quarter number larry. we are seeing durable goods orders down in july and august. we are seeing the pmi is down. importantly, europe is moving in to a recession. germany is now in recession and china is not doing its stimulus. you have a coordinated global slow down starts now and i
now, we see an economy which is expanding. we see employment which is one of the key indicators of recession, still growing. so we expect the economy to continue to grow. that's our best forecast as of now. so we're not expecting a recession. that being said, with an economy growing only sort of 1.5% to 2%, that is not fast enough to lower the unemployment rate. that is my concern. >> all right. we have reaction now to that. and today's big gains in our "closing bell" exchange, plus we're talking strategies for the coming quarter. a quarter that has historically been good for the bulls. with us today, todd of black bay grou group. paul shots of heritage market. and our own rick santelli. paul, i'm going to start with you because you make a bold statement. you feel right now ben bernanke is irrelevant. what do you mean in. >> bill, i think the fed's done the most part, they've laid all their cards on the table. if you're playing poker, they're all in. it's qe unlimited. if $40 billion is not enough, they'll go to $50 billion, $60 billion, $100 billion. each qe has had less of an
with their economy, it's kind of turned around. >> when you start messing around with china as a political football on either side, election nearing and -- >> and tensions between china and japan got pretty bad. i heard the lexus is going to be slowing down production because wealthy people don't want to buy a japanese luxury sedan. >> a lot of people that were wealthy aren't quite as wealthy as they used to be. i think trump was always railing about china, too. >> in other news out of washington, the white house is reportedly prepare to go direct federal agencies to develop guidelines for owners of power, water and other infrastructure facilities. it would give the agencies 90 days to propose new regulations and create a new cyber security council at the department of homeland security. and president obama will be addressing the general assembly of the united nations today. this is a video of his last appearance in 2010. zun says 18,000 people have been killed since the uprising began in march. >> and kelly evans is standing by in london. what's going on this morning, kelly? >> it's quiet because
.a.t. is the plaitest multinational after fedex to warm a weak economy is going to hurt their future products. that's been resonating with some investors. we're going to dig into what this all means for investors in just a moment. >> first, let's look at how stocks are trading now as we enter the final stretch. the dow industrial down at the lows of the day as we approach the end at 13,513. we have a decline in the session, about 45 points. nasdaq also weaker. it's too sitting at the low of the day, down 24. s&p 500, weaker by 7 1/2. let's talk more about caterpillar. the stock down 3% after forecasting weak growth through 2015. investors clearly not happy to see another gloomy outlook. even a report showing an uptick in july home sales. >> is this a red flag given the company's status? we posed that question in our "closing bell" exchange today with michael, debra, jeff cox, and our own rick santelli. deb, what do you think? is this a one-time situation, or are we starting to see a trend after fedex and now caterpillar? >> well, we're definitely clearly seeing a trend because these aren't small co
. the economy is obviously a big part of this story. the qe announcement providing a shock to stock. we'll talk to charlie evans at 8:30 eastern time. and then it is your money, your vote. we'll start the countdown to the first presidential tee batd, that is on wednesday night. we'll be turning to a pair of political strategists in the next half hour for a preview. plus a cnbc exclusive, julia boars sten catching up with sheryl sandberg. including just how many people put everything about themselves online. >> does it scare that you you've helped create a generation of oversharers? >> i think what we give is people the ability to share what they want. what is one person's ridiculous oversharing is another person's regular day and we build technology that lets users share what they want to share and that's tremendously exciting. >> julia will join us with more of that conversation coming up at 7:30. and we'll find out why craig barrett is not a facebook fan. and in sports news, yes, europe has retained the ryder cup. staging a comeback after the u.s. began sunday with a big lead. europe has won
while consumer prices slipped further in august raising fears the world's third biggest economy could yet fall into recession by year end. >>> what a big day. >> super friday. >> we have the french budget proposal, the results of the spain audit/stress test, we've got, what else -- it's the end of the quarter. britain is announcing it libor reforms. >> that's not what i was talking about. it's the ryder cup, folks. forget all that stuff. >> by the way, i had to google the ryder cup. >> far more important event. >> we'll talk about that later in the program. >> i don't know who insisted on that, but apparently we are going to cover it. >> before we get to that, the government of hollande is about to present it first budget. its expected to whicheverdelives of tax hikes. meantime european policymakers are appraising spain's reform plan. but today the government must brace for the results of the banking stress tests that will determine the recapitalization needs of the country's most troubled lenders. we have steve sedgwick following the story in thmadrid, but firs out to stefane i
crash. we have a federal reserve that's so exasperated with its inability to get the economy moving, it's taken the unprecedented position saying it's going to stay acome date. aka, print money. we still are one more unthinkable, a slowing chinese economy. the great growth engine -- the great engine of growth that has supported global commerce for years. >> all aboard! >> including the darkest days of the dark recession. what's happened? stock market never quit, never stopped climbing. it's had a remarkable run with every sector leading the charge at one time or another. before i get into the big remonstrations for the evening. i have gotten the big picture right. the europe, the slowdown of china and the perma low growth, the united states. some income producers, growth names and stocks with solid dividend boosts and, of course, some gold. these have been the correct calls to make. i've stuck with this market because i believe europeans are not suicidal. so far so good on that front. at least of late. i believe chinese economy will simply come back by virtue of the fact there's a treme
. >>> consumer spending making up 70% of the u.s. economy, this holiday shopping season a key gauge on whether this sluggish economy can shift into a somewhat higher gear. new numbers out today from the world's largest retail trade association, the nrf, says u.s. retail sales should rise 4.1% this holiday season. pretty merry. don't get too excited. that is actually slower than the growth the past two years. so, why the slow down in the nrf says the biggest things holding consumers back is uncertainty over the economy and whether congress can strike what deal and avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. >>> one major retailer hoping for a merry holiday season is jc penney. ceo ron johnson continues to outline his plans for the struggling chain store. the stock down 30%. johnson speaking on the record and excuse swivel our courtney real been the state of his business. courtney? >> hi, tyler, good afternoon. jc penney ceo ron johnson has just begun speaking. the toirng the rocky road to reinventing retape. spoke with johnson exclusively before he took the stage at the event. now, 700 of the total 1100
work. but this is not one of those times. when the federal reserve talks about getting the economy moving by any means necessary it is really talking about getting more data like today's terrific ism number. given that the europeans and chinese are doing the same thing, if you're betting against the market you're fighting major central banks around the world that are doing their best to generate good data and sometimes their best is good enough. why does this overused cliche matter so much? ben bernanke said he's going to continue to buy bonds to keep interest rates down, so that this purchasing manager's number won't be an aberration. when you examine the fundamental of individual stocks, you are playing what's known as the micro. when you take into account the big data numbers like the purchasing manager's index, you're making a macro analysis. again though like the idea of fighting the fed this micro/macro dichotomy might mean nothing to you unless you took ec 101. let's put it in terms that everybody can understand. anyone who's been to a museum or taken an art class knows that
has obama leading romney 49-46. the economy is issue number one and whose plans are better for the middle class. to answer that we are holding our own debate right here on the kudlow report. we are joined by new jersey democratic congressman and jim gillmore to make the case for governor romney. there will be time to talk among your selves at my disgression. the first question is going to congressman big paskrel. 1.3% gdp 25 million people out of the workforce. mr. president, what is your solution to the prosperity and the recovery that continues to elude us? >> over the past 30 months we have had an increase in private sector jobs. but that is the direction we are going in. if you remember what happened before that, when the president raised his hand in january of 2009, we were losing 700 no,000 jobs a month. but the fact of the matter is we are going in the right direction now and we should keep doing that. the president supports the position on the creation of jobs and the government can't do everything but it has a responsibility. we have lost public sector jobs and we
. that's what's happening now, coming to grips with their economy is going to be horrendous for a long time. >> thank you very much. i'm sure we'll check back with you later this morning. >>> we have to go? really? we do? all right. coming up, this football stuff. >> we'll get into some of this. >> today's national weather forecast. in sports, another team clinches a major league baseball playoff spot. but pointless, really. going to lose to the reds one way or another. >>> both president obama and mitt romney will be in ohio today. the story behind that swing state. >>> welcome back. take a look and you'll see that the dow futures are slightly higher. s&p futures up by close to two and a half. this comes after the market ended on its weakest levels of the day yesterday. yesterday was the worst day for the month of september for the dow. it was the worst day in two months for the nasdaq and it was the worst day in three months for the s&p 500. all of that kind of playing out overseas as well. in europe this morning, you are going to see some red arrows. a lot of concern about what's ha
are great. that's one of the reasons the economy hasn't been strong to this point in the cycle. housing is keeping us from really stuttering on growth. we need more in housing, all that free cash flow in the corporate sector to be put to more productive use, investing in capital and labor. there's a real need for it, carl, because the capital stock in the economy is basically depreciating. we're operating with old depleted capital. >> housing is a much smaller portion. the context of this is we need a much bigger engine for this economy this time around. >> we do. but partly most of the housing is so low because it came from a high level and then a collapse. if you look at the fed flow of funds data, you've had two record quarters of growth because of higher home prices. but we need more jobs. so housing is helping, the consumer is still holding in. we need more jobs. it's got to come from the business side. >> what gives you the confidence that europe has stabilized? of course, we look at this durable goods number, we know that's partially because of european weakness, but some would s
and they can't do anything other than use the central government to force the economy to do x and y. and they're trying to get away from that. as they move away from it, that part of the economy clearly shows some struggles. >> short the aussie dollar, what, long the mexican peso? >> mexico is one of the big winners because they're deliberately raising wages. so low value added chinese manufacturing is nowhere near as competitive in the world as it once was. you see evidence of the u.s. getting some of it back. so mexico sort of had its breakfast, lunch and dinner the past 20 years by china appearing on the scene is probably in the early stages of regaining some of that a. so i think mexico is a big winner. southeast asia, philippines, for example. >> all right. jim, stick around. more to come from you. let's get over to asia and get a wrap of the day over there. >> thanks, ross. asian markets were mostly higher buoyed by improved data in u.s. and europe and also the rba rate cut. surprising move from the central bank helped the australian market end at a five month high. resources and banks
this is all an anomaly if you're bullish. and the economy has a little rough patch before it accelerates again. what happens if this is the rough patch that causes companies to slam on the brakes, ahead of what is no longer a fiscal cliff but a fiscal retaining wall. when you consider that the republicans are run by the tea party and democrats don't have to change, we have gone from thinking we can jump the fiscal cliff to thinking how can we slow business spending so that the collision won't destroy us? it's not just the u.s. that's a drag. china, there's a big hate on china right now. china is big hat. no. big mao cap no cattle. the worst downturn in two months is more representative of what's happening because there is no unity between the rich and poor nations. don't they show that there's no real hope for fiscal reform in that wounded country? today's action, i heard all day it's phony. me and many portfolio managers buy stocks and move them higher to the end of the quarter to get a little gain there. the conclusion, if this were monday coming up, a new month, a new quarter, you would see
a red flag for the economy. we'll talk more about the transports and what they're telling us at 6:40. we'll also focus on the economy with the man who is charged with officially calling recessions and the end of those recessions. james poterba will be here at 7:30. and our corporate story of the morning, smartphones and mobile devices. apple launches the new iphone 5 in 22 more countries today and this comes after blackberry posted better than expected quarterly results after the bell last night. still, it is an uphill climb for this company. we'll be talking to research in motion ceo. and plus we will welcome today's political news maker, senator rand paul, one of the nation's best known tea party members. and by the way, in case you went to sleep early last night, the official nfl refs were back on the field. get this, they got a standing ovation as they took the field. the ravens beating the browns 23-16. we will have more on the game and on what's happening in sports at 6:20 eastern time. first andrew has the morning's top business headlines. >>> on the global markets agenda, results
, to the extent that there's been any economy growth at all, it's been -- whatever we have had has been completely funded -- remember what obama said, i'm going to build a new foundation. it's built on easy money and borrowing. >> the only argument, the only argument that romney and the republicans have is look how terrible things are, they're the america lose crowd. >> that's their only argument. >> so guess what, bright signs in the market you indicated today. bright signs in manufacturing. it couldn't possibly be because of good public policy. >> you realize this year's worse than last year, right? >> i know you're an obama insider. >> no, i'm an outsider. >> does president obama understand the federal reserve? the reason i ask is does he know what bernanke's doing? the reason i ask this is that most people only recognize a third to a half of the intelligence reports. >> he's too good for that. most people have reported that he's only gotten and he got it online through his ipad. do you think he understands, do you really think he understands what's going on in the federal reserve? >> i do. any
to change the mood. business confidence in the world's third biggest economy continues to take a hit. sentiment fell in the july to september quarter. this according to the central bank's survey. falling output and exports have taken a toll along with rising worries over strained relations with china. the one bright spot, the mood in the service sector which remains much higher. japan also has a new finance chief after noda reshuffled his cabinet. largely expected to stick to the reform plan. in all ten new faces were brought into the cabinet including the economics minister and he's been urging the bank of japan to take more action, as well, on the economy. ed rogers is ceo of rogers investment advisers and he joins us now. ed, was that one bright spot in the tank enough? >> good morning, ross. i think actually there were two bright spots. cap ex- is expected to rise at much higher rate than previously expected. those are good things. the fact that in the short term we have a bit of a down tick in enthusiasm and a lot of that could well be placed at the doorstep of the china and jap
finally get a little boost to the economy from the housing sector, which we have obviously been missing throughout the post-recession period or the recovery period, however you want to call it. it's not going to go straight up but we've got 20 cities up month to month. we've got i think 15 cities up year over year. and it looks like we will continue to see some rise in home prices. we are also hearing spot reports of a shortage of inventory. >> david, jim kramer. when i look at your numbers i'm trying to figure out, is month to month the precursor to tell me next year this is where i should be buying if i'm thinking about buying a home? >> well, i think you have to certainly look at the year-over-year numbers. the figures we have are not seasonally adjusted in the headline. and we are moving into a seasonably slow period coming up. so we will probably see home prices, so smaller gains and an occasional decline in one city or another over the next few months. that's purely the seasonal factor, but the trend, i think, that is turned and is shown by the fact that 15 of the 20 are up year o
to qe-3 because it won't help the economy. as far as bond yields are concerned, nudging ever close to the 5% mark in italy. we have got italy today with a bell auction. we'll get the results of that a little bit later. u.s. yields continue to fall back down lower at 1.46%. sterling/dollar is a little bit low. aussie/dollar is low. so the dollar having a good day apart from against the euro/dollar. starting to raise the gains we've made post the ecb out of the constitutional court. that's where we stand in european trade. what about in asia today? lisa has the details once again out of singapore. >> thanks, ross. the shanghai composite is not far from that all important 2,000 point mark. investors would have been much better off investing in greece instead of china. year to date stocks gained over 10% increase, but down about 9% in china on growth concerns and political uncertainties. today the shanghai composite was dragged down by resource and steel makers. property corps is down 1.2%. the hang seng physicaled suit. industrial resources and consumer goods weighed it down. the japa
with the inability to get the economy moving, it's taken the position of saying it's going to stay accommodative, meaning continuing to print money even as it looks like the economy is turning around. that's the exact opposite of a mandate to take away the punch bowl once the party gets started. now ben bernanke is going to keep it flowing for as long as it takes. we could be for three days. plus, one more unthinkable, a slowing chinese economy. the great engine of growth that has supported global commerce for years. >> all aboard! >> including the darkest days of the great recession. and what's happened? the stock market never quit. never stopped climbing, it has a remarkable run with almost every sector leading the charge at one time or another, the great rotation. and before i go into the by remistations for the evening. i told you not to waver, to stay the course, the slowdown against china, and the growth that is the united states. the diverse portfolio of high-quality stocks, income producers, and growth stocks with solid dividend boosts. and of course, some gold. these have all been the c
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the economy. when we announced qe-3, those were exactly the conversation we were having on the point, but still the market rallied and later on down the line, you rationalize it as the initial event wasn't so powerful. now we're doing exactly the same in europe. every time we go through this process. >> let's take an attendance call. volumes are still considerably low. today is a holiday. last week we had a significant holiday in the u.s. attendance is just low. there's not the kind of participation. so if you get something like that that spooks a few participants who actually are in the market, it's going to have a more profound effect and you'll see a percent and a half pullback. >> where do you stand on the notion that there's going to be a chase for performance in the fourth quarter and therefore will want to be in this market, putting sort of a floor underneath? >> that's a legitimate concern for people who aren't fully invested, but up to where they should be in terms of risk on with their portfolios. i do see there's considerable amount of risk to have that continue to push ag
the world in a slowing global economy are going to open up. we'll see where it all plays out, whether all current cities are suddenly represented in oil and gold, suddenly gold and oil are so high that any gains that you get in your market averages are -- >> and yet crude oil back at -- >> 92, yeah. expressed in either euros or dollar, it's expensive. the ten year note which we know is just able to trade wherever it wants and not being influenced at all by the fed, just at a 1.63%. look at the dollar which has been around 1.28 versus the euro. 1.29 today. and then gold was at a session high, i think it was at a euro all-time high yesterday. down a little bit today. >> right now time for the global markets report. ross westgate is standing by. while you -- >> two days now? >> guess who we get onset with us. >> mr. poulter. that's fantastic. and is that the first interview he's done outside of the event? >> he may have just talked after the event, i guess, and i know he had a few guinnesss after the event. i saw a few pictures yesterday. but he had those same eyes. eyes scare me a little bi
, if there's concern about the health of the global economy, someone forgot to tell the credit markets. >> the credit markets have been tightening because there's been a big imbalance between demand for credit bonds which is growing rapidly in the eurozone and supply which is shrinking. >> just how frothy have the markets become? what are the metrics to you? >> it's very hard to specify where is fair value. in a market driven by technicals rather than fundamentals, certainly our target is 100, but the key is once we get in to 2013 and we're at 100, what happens then. my feeling is we probably go through even tighter still. >> isn't there a sense for which the demand for credit is actually more a reflection of weakness than strength in the global economy? meaning to some extent, it's a reflection of the risk off attitude that's keeping yields super low and a lot of more investment grade products or certainly core sovereign bonds and basically when people push them into riskier products. >> the problem is the pensions schemes across the eurozone are still growing at exactly the same rate
. >> one market that they're particularly excited about is saudi arabia, the region's largest economy. we keep talking about the risks that come from swings in oil prices at least for the audi economy. and stability in the country. he says that's not really the biggest risk. at least not from a brush capital perspective. >> for the start, we have a business in the country, a large group of investors and they're focused in development. the issues are not about whether or not the economic opportunities are there. i think they are. i think saudi arabia and in terms of individual sectors, they'll perform extremely well. it's about the politics, not the economy. i think the people generally speaking are quite happy with the stimulus package and with the political system. >> tensions indeed remain high especially in some towns in the eastern province of the kingdom. of course we also got a start on the broader concept and developments in the arab spring. why he chose india over china when it comes to their broader investment strategy. and of course we'll talk about the art of private equity, as
down by ten percentage points, president obama ahead on the economy, 6 in 10 voters, nearly 6 in 10, that is, said mitt romney's policies would favor the rich and mitt romney doesn't care about people like them. president obama's driving that message, going after mitt romney's predictions that he'll be tough on china saying that if you look at romney's record at bain capital, all that talk is fake. >> when you hear this newfound outrage, when you see these ads, these running problems seem to get tough on china, it seems a lot like that fox saying we need more secure chicken coops. i mean, it's just not credible. >> and larry, you can hear the confidence in president obama's voice because not only in ohio is he ahead, but in all of the major swing states president obama's got a lead right now. mitt romney's got to find a way to turn that around, turn it around in the debates, and maybe the tax cut issue that you're talking about will be one tool in that arsenal. back to you, larry. >> many thanks to john harwood. now for some reason on the trail today, mitt romney said he's going to
to which they are pumping new cash into the economy which was information that came out last night contributed to a good day in the shanghai stock market, up 2%, it's done horribly for many, many, many months, is that chinese cash injection a big surprise in the same sense that the fed's cash injection was always big surprise? >> i think them coming out and saying that -- affirm something that some people thought, just like people thought there was going to be qe-3 but it wasn't until they affirmed it and we saw stocks take off again. we saw qe 1, qe-2, qe-qe-3. look at our poverty rate, our unemployment rate. that's not a recovery. >> housing prices are getting better. >> that's a bubble. incomes aren't going up. >> housing is in a hugh bubble? >> look at what happened to mortgage rates. >> this is literally unfounded. you're combining these really big stories about poverty which is all legitimate debate to have with a shorter term story with respect to what's happening in the market and i would add after qe 1, after qe-2 and now qe-3, the initial reaction was stocks turned lower.
of the executive suite and of course the economy and business in america as well as globally. we're going to talk with him at 4:30 p.m. eastern. before that, we have some heavy hitters coming up, including the former yahoo! ceo and the coca-cola ceo. all of a that coming up in the program. meanwhile, let's get back to the markets. we have a double-digit decline. in fact, it looks like the dow is on track to close lower for the sixth time in eight trading sessions. the dow jones industrial average now at 13,436, a decline of about 0.5%. if we close lower today that, would be the sixth decline in the last eight trading sessions. a bit of worry about earnings on the trading horizon, as we are expected expecting the stream of earnings to take effect. weakness in apple today. it is about 5% of the s&p 500 and 20% of the nasdaq. so as apple goes, so goes the market. that's what we're seeing once again today. s&p 500 down about five points. that's 1/3 of 1%. with markets in the red, let's look at what this says about where we are in business today. joining me in today's "closing bell" exchange, we have
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the it should go down game. >> what if you're making a call on the real economy, x market. what would you be saying about the u.s. fortunes into q4? >> i still await a negative retail story that i don't have. china -- can china remain bad forever? that's a difficult question to see how long it can remain bad. >> good point. stuff on housing is good. the lead story in "the journal" today, trade slowing. slowing pmis in japan, china, europe -- >> how is this news? what news was there in that story about trade is slow? were they really that devoid of anything new? that's like, d.a. probes rackets. come on! >> meanwhile, busy week for new companies. one of the busiest weeks for ipos since july. and i think september, i just saw these numbers, the best september since '99. eight deals, $5.5 billion, best actual month since may. >> david bust ser coming back. my daughter was able to beat -- there's a claw that comes down -- my daughter got five straight. i'm glad dave & buster is coming back. >> anything worth anything? >> not more than two cents. >> and it costs 50 cents to play? >> i've dropp
. the feds attempt to jump start the economy by any means necessary. think about how the people might have sold in october last year. why doesn't this calendar style of investing interest me to make money? simple. every year there is a way to make money. let me give you examples of why this is a lazy force that is nothing but a lovy blanket. first, when these numbers or patterns were created, the u.s. was in control of its own destiny. our fings ago system is connected with theirs. do you think any of the historical data takes on that shift that we have to deal with? no, do you think i would be ringing a gong five years ago? i think this is kind of a recent event you know. gong show. i cannot recall another time when the federal reserve is taking the step to lower the -- if the economy gets better. that means you have to lower stocks. history shows it has to be one. of course it didn't pay to sell those stocks in september. september is the worst month for investing. third, there is apple. we've never had a $600 billion stock before. we've never had a stock that is so much bigger. if i cou
to be the worst month of the year historically. we know the global economy is weakening. everybody came on our air saying hey. short the global economy. this did not turn out to be such a good theory did it? right now, 2.9% for one of the best months of the year. not the best month but among the better months of the year. what were the two biggest gains we had this month? the two biggest days? september 6th? that was the day draghi announced the bond buying program. biggest gain. second biggest gain september 13th the day of the fomc meeting. what does this tell us? it tells us what matters in the world is central bank intervention and also what's going on in europe. what was the worst day this year? it was tuesday, the day we saw the riots in madrid because that's the day everybody said uh-oh. this whole deal with spain and this careful choreography moving toward help from the eu could fall apart. turns out maybe it's holding together a little better than anticipated. my point is what moves the world is central bank intervention and what's going on in europe. to play against that is very, very da
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had expected. that suggests the economy may not be so hot, right? >> set the stage. we just downgrade the second quarter. we went from 1.7 to 1.3. we talked about that yesterday. >> this i consistent with that. >> exactly. we thought third quarter might have a two handle on it. we're taking that two handle off. before i came on goldman sachs has a report saying they're looking at 1.9. i see some over 1.8, 1.7. slow mediocre growth continues. i think the key being, can we resolve the issues that have hung over the american economy from spain? >> is madrid more important than chicago? >> at least it is today. we wanted to see what the needs would be for the spanish banks. the numbers that they put out today after this exhaustive examination. >> do you breath numbers? >> the market believes them now. they came about in line with expectations. the number could change depending on what happens with the spanish economy and if real estate prices fall even further. you think more of this like a tradeoff. if the capital requirements had been even bigger it would have meant they were going to c
in the market don't seem to reflect the declines in the economy. there's sort of a disconnect. i think you agree with that, don't you? >> i absolutely agree with you, bill. i think all of september the market has been moved, not by what's going on here in the united states, but what's been going on in europe, which says to me two things. one, any bad news out of europe is going to send the market down. two, eventually people are going to have to pay attention to what's going on in the united states. i'm expecting we're heading into earnings season, i'm expecting anemic growth, and eventually that's going to have to play into the situation here. i mean, i know you don't fight the fed, but eventually we have to come back to what's going on in terms of fundamentals and stop focusing on monetary policy. >> what do you think? are we going to focus on fundamentals? if you are, kurt, would you be a seller of this market? >> we are focused in on fundamentals. i think this has been a tug of war between the reflationists and some of the risk that's been perceived in the market. we're not investing in gdp.
of confidence in the economy. everybody's saying, yeah, things feel better, but it's not perfect yet. >> also, there's no urgency. the fed is telling us rates are going to stay at rock bottom until 2015. i don't have to rush into the market now. >> that and the fact your house is worth now what it was in 2004 before the few years of psycho fraud happened. people aren't saying buy, buy, buy because this is a super investment and it's going to go up 10% a year. yeah, people are waiting for the right house. there's people i've had as buyers who have waited a year to find the right house. yeah, they paid a little more for it, but it was worth the wait. people are picky too. >> diana, there's just no urgency. >> no urgency. i was just talking to an investor today. he was talking about this fundamental shift in attitudes toward homeownership. it's just not what it used to be. a lot of potential buyers out there are saying i can rent a single family home and even though, you know, home sale prices are lower and affordability is supposedly better, i don't have to deal with a mortgage. i don't have to
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